prpl pen ([info]prpl_pen) wrote,
@ 2007-08-11 14:23:00
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Entry tags:books, love!!!, movies, stardust

I have a horrible cold. It's providing me with a low-level--yet constant!--misery. That combined with the wacky cold meds I'm on, might mean I am a little incoherent today! Y-yay?

First! Much love to [info]parsnip_chan, [info]shiinabambi, and [info]the_firefly, who sent me Skip Beat, various anime (Simoun, Yami to Boushi to Hon no Tabibito, & Death Note) on cd, and Last Exile, respectively. My heart swells with love, srsly. ♥

Yesterday, I had to run a check to the bank (hooray, overdraft fees?!) and then randomly decided I should see Stardust since I was in the neighborhood. Then also figured, hey, might as well see The Simpsons Movie while I'm at it! I meant to do my write-up of Stardust, especially, last night, but this was not to be, as a pretty hardcore thunderstorm started just after I got home, which not only slowed my dial-up connection speed to a crawl, but later completely knocked out all power for several hours! Instead, I read Diana Wynne Jones by candlelight until I fell asleep, which was pleasant, and somewhat nostalgic for reasons I won't get into right now.

Anyway, here are my mildly spoilery thoughts on Stardust. First, I should probably say I adore the book. So much so that it's really impossible for me to write up my thoughts on the movie without comparing it to the novel. I've read it so many times I've lost count, and it's actually probably my favorite of Gaiman's novel-length prose, and I am a COMPLETE WHORE for Charles Vess. (I also know that there is a text-only version of the book out, but I've not read it. I guess I just don't know why you would want to? Since the original work included the illustrations, and they add so much, and...as far as I know, the text is the same in both versions [correct me if I'm wrong?]--it just seems weird to willingly read an incomplete version, I guess.

So, what I'm getting at here was I didn't expect the film to be as good as the book.  And...it wasn't. I'm pretty sure that would be impossible, at least from my perspective, because I love the book so much--but it was very, very good. There were things changed, things expanded, things cut...and pretty much all of it this was a really wonderful example of how to adapt a book to film well, so that it becomes its own entity without raping the original work up the ass. ♥, film producers.

I won't get much into the plot, since I assume anyone reading this is already familiar with either the book, the film, or both. The whole affair had such a delightful air of whimsy to it, by which I mean the film in general. There were things that were tweaked slightly to push that, and while there was danger present in the movie, one never lost the sense of a tongue being held firmly in cheek. Among these expansions/embellishments, the princes of Stormhold were particularly hilarious (I especially enjoyed the random state of perpetual nudity for Primus and Rupert Everett showing up all noble and such, just to be killed off immediately), as was Robert De Niro's Captain Shakespeare.

The ending I was initially iffy on, admittedly. Once I saw it begin to veer off from the original, I felt skeptical at first, then a little worried, then puzzled, but...ultimately okay with it. I prefer the book ending, but I also think it would feel rather anti-climactic on film, as well as not match with the aforementioned perpetual whimsy, and it did an interesting thing where it kind of redeemed itself while I was watching it.

The one change that troubles me the most (and, admittedly, "the most" is very relative because I'm really not that bothered by it) was making Victoria into more of a one-dimensional "bad guy." Here she becomes much more of a conniving gold-digger type, and one of the things I always liked a lot about her character in the book was...she wasn't a horrible person. She may have been immature and a bit thoughtless, but her only crime was really...she didn't love Tristan even though he thought he loved her. That kind of thing happens all the time, yet it's kind of rare to see a sympathetic treatment of a "love rival" character. Even this was change was forgiven, though, because the sight of Shakespeare flirting with Humphrey at Tristan's coronation made it allllll better. XD

Anyway, if anyone else's seen it, I'd love to get discussy in the comments. *thumbs up*

(Small note on The Simpson's Movie: I stopped watching the show at least five years ago. It started to suck, so I stopped watching; very simple. The movie, however, was good, though it started to drag a bit at the end. It really only makes me much more impatient for the Futurama OVAs to drop, honestly. >.>)



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[info]the_firefly
2007-08-11 08:17 pm UTC (link)
You got it already? Holy crap that was fast, XD I took it to the post office Friday morning before work, lol

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[info]the_firefly
2007-08-11 08:19 pm UTC (link)
Actually, my mother has informed me that this happened Thursday morning, but still! Quick!

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[info]prpl_pen
2007-08-11 08:27 pm UTC (link)
Hee! Yeah, I got it this morning. So...two days for first class seems about right. Anyway, THANK YOUUU~! I haven't had a chance to watch it yet, but I will soon!

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[info]the_firefly
2007-08-11 08:48 pm UTC (link)
Dennou Coil 12-13 were upped at the comm. 12 is hands down the funniest thing I've ever seen. 13 is the most heartbreaking.

Also, I think I've figured out the dvd thing. It's just a matter of buying blank dvds, :D

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[info]prpl_pen
2007-08-11 09:38 pm UTC (link)
I saw! I have to DL still, though. Episode...nine, was it? The festival?...made me flail all over the place. Cute little kids with crushes, omg. Too adorable.

Oooh. Are you using DVD Shrink, or something else?

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[info]the_firefly
2007-08-11 10:00 pm UTC (link)
The festival was too adorable for words. I laugh so much because Fumie is so dense and Daichi is so obvious. And Kyoko! Tormenting Daichi, XD I love that episode more than words can say. (Though now the show is on a three week hiatus because of two weeks of baseball and one week of recap, D: TORTURE No ep today and no ep next week, recap the week after)

I'm pretty sure I can do it using DVD Shrink, :D I was reading up on it and it sounds simple enough. I think the hardest thing is getting the dvd files ON my laptop to start with, lol

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[info]prpl_pen
2007-08-12 12:21 am UTC (link)
For reals. And...aww. Hiatus? Lame. :\

Yeah, it's pretty simple to use, I think. The ripping of them off discs takes a little while, but you can let it run in the background.

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[info]the_firefly
2007-08-12 01:06 am UTC (link)
I can't win against baseball, :P

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[info]prpl_pen
2007-08-12 12:55 pm UTC (link)
Have you tried? Maybe you CAN! :P

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[info]gamera
2007-08-11 09:18 pm UTC (link)
I also know that there is a text-only version of the book out, but I've not read it.

That's actually the only version I've read, because it's the one my public library had (and I read Stardust during my I AM TOO POOR TO BUY BOOKS phase). Not having read the illustrated version, I couldn't tell you whether the text is the same or not-- but I can't imagine why it wouldn't be.

I adored the movie. The ending threw me at first, too, but I suppose it really does fit more with the feel of the rest of the movie to give them both a flawlessly happily ever after ending instead of "oh, yes, they had a wonderful life, but then Tristran dies and Yvaine doesn't." It's certainly more realistic, and more characteristic of Gaiman, but would have probably seemed odd at the end of a whimsical fantasy film to people who hadn't read the book.

The Shakespeare and Humphrey bit at the end was hilarious. And there was a very interesting phenomenon in the theater where I saw it-- about half of the theater got the joke and was laughing, and the other half was so confused about why we were laughing. (I hadn't realized the joke there wasn't obvious, though.)

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[info]prpl_pen
2007-08-11 11:34 pm UTC (link)
I know that the original version was rare for a while, but I'm pretty sure it's been reprinted since, so if you ever get a chance, I'd totally recommend checking it out. Oh, that was another thing I meant to mention in my entry: how, thanks to Vess's illustrations, I have a "look" for the novel very firmly planted in my mind, which I think the film did an excellent job of adapting. I was a little worried going in, that if things looked too "wrong" to me, I wouldn't be able to immerse myself.

I really liked it. I was actually surprised by how much. And, yes, the ending fit well for the film.

Oh god, I know. It amused me endlessly. And hm. I didn't notice that problem in my theatre, though there were a few people behind me who grumbled disapprovingly whenever there was "gay stuff."

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[info]shvetufae
2007-08-11 09:49 pm UTC (link)
Thanks so much for the book! Did you see in my post that I got it?

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[info]prpl_pen
2007-08-12 12:23 am UTC (link)
Oh no, I must have missed that. I'm glad it got to you okay! I hope you enjoy it! :D

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[info]parsnip_chan
2007-08-12 02:31 am UTC (link)
Phooie on the sickness :( But yay for Skip Beat! It's the crackiest thing I've read in a long time and compared to Nakamura's earlier work (re: Tokyo Crazy Paradise) it's a much tighter and better plotted story while still being humorous and beautifully drawn ♥

^__________^

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[info]prpl_pen
2007-08-12 12:56 pm UTC (link)
Hee, it was cute and fun. Soooo...now that you have got me started, you must provide more info. Is it completed? How many volumes are there?

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[info]parsnip_chan
2007-08-14 12:36 am UTC (link)
It's 18+ volumes and still running. The last chapter I've seen is 110, but the US is behind with only 7 volumes currently published and the eigth due in September. BUT! In my opinion it's well worth the wait ♥ Once you get caught up on american releases, you should be able to find most chapters at the yahoo group Skip_beat_scans although translations and quality are varied based on the fan ^__^

So...who's your favorite character now? I have a soft spot for Tsuraga's manager ♥

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[info]rumdiculous
2007-08-12 02:40 am UTC (link)
I enjoy reading by candlelight. It's hard on the eyes but kind of neat in a rustic way.

Ew, summer colds suck. Keep drinking water!

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[info]prpl_pen
2007-08-12 01:01 pm UTC (link)
When my sisters and I were very young, we lived in an old house on a farm where the electricity went off relatively often. If that happened before bedtime, my mom always let us stay up and color with crayons by candlelight until we fell asleep, or the lights came back on, whichever happened first. Now when the power goes out, I always remember the smell of Crayola color crayons and the warm wax of an emergency candle.

I think I'm already over the worst of it now, which is a relief. (Hopefully I didn't just jinx myself saying that.)

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[info]snuzzie
2007-08-12 04:26 am UTC (link)
SKIP BEAT! skhfkjahfskahsd I LOVE SKIP BEAT. *____*

Also. I swear I will get you your PoT soon. @____@

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[info]prpl_pen
2007-08-12 01:02 pm UTC (link)
Ooh, you know it too? I only read the first volume so far, but it's cute!

Yay! ♥__♥

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[info]snuzzie
2007-08-12 05:57 pm UTC (link)
YUP! I've read up to Volume 7, which is all that's out now. I want Volume 8. ;____; It's really good. I was sort of meh about it at first, but it's gotten loads better. :DD

♥________♥!

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[info]tea_roses
2007-08-12 07:05 am UTC (link)
STARDUST! Haven't seen it, but I wanted to see it badly. I was a bit cautious about it though since I generally don't like anything with Clare Danes in it. D; I just hope they didn't stray from the book too much.

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[info]prpl_pen
2007-08-12 01:04 pm UTC (link)
Heh, Clare Daines kind of gave me pause, when I heard she'd been cast too, but...you should see it, I think. They do change some things from the book (mostly the ending), but I think the changes are pretty good and make sense for the movie. The book is still better, but the movie is very good, I thought. :)

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[info]starfreckled
2007-08-12 10:28 am UTC (link)
Ooh, I didn't know the film was out! I thought it was coming out sometime this winter. I'll have to find a place where I can see it!

fjskg More Futurama NOW, please. D:

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[info]prpl_pen
2007-08-12 01:07 pm UTC (link)
No; it just opened in the States, so I hope you can see it soon too!

sjfhkafs I know. I have been a huge fan of that show since the beginning, and I'm really looking forward to finally getting more. *__*

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